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Gun -- gun safety groups such as yourself have been fighting so hard for these small, incremental changes for so long. it's so hard to break the dam of nra resistance. there are folks inside your movement who are saying let's think big? like cory booker, for instance, proposing essentially a licensing system, like car license for all guns. which is utterly anathema to the nra. what do you think about that idea and the scope of the ambitions of your movement are right now. >> we should absolutely be talking and thinking big. we should be talking about comprehensive reform because that's what it...

They have to get a license and pass a written test, they have got to pass a physical test. same thing with guns. you want to have a gun? great. we should have a licensing system. i'd have more people have guns but got to have a license. you got to take a test. you got to take a written test and you got to show you know how to use a gun. not take it into your house like you're not taking a car into your garage if you don't know how to drive. >> i'm just confused then. because we were just putting up the pictures of a couple of republicans and handful of democrats who are either on the fence or ...