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Four-star general, david petraeus. and former national security advisor, tom donilon. >> i think the plan is to lay out what's clear. >> we should communicate to individuals in moscow that life is going to be very, very tough for you if you go into ukraine. you may be able to get -- you may even push the government out of kyiv but at the end of the day, we're going to make life hell for you if that's the case and with some experience as a counterinsurgent, we'll tell them what you have is not enough. this is what we invaded iraq with. it's nowhere near enough for a country with multiples the s...

Let's return to the russia, ukraine crisis. i am joined by chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell who has been talking with top former officials about this. what's the thought about what it would take to deter putin, make him look for an exit strategy? >> lester, one word, deterrence. what the former national security official said, they have to do what biden tried to do in a speech yesterday, drive home the cost to russia if putin invades. >> we should be communicating to individuals in moscow that life is going to be very, very tough for you if you go into ukraine. you may be ab...

Mullen. former undersecretary of defense, michelle fornoy. david petraeus. cyber expert dimitri alperavic, and former national security advisor tom donnelin. >> our goals should be to build out a case here that is clear to putin as to what the cost is going to be for action that he might take here. >> we should be communicating to individuals in moscow that life is going to be very, very tough for you if you go into ukraine. you may be able to get all the way, you might even push the government out of kyiv, but at the end of the day, we're going to make life hell for you if that is the case. >...

Life upended. take us through your reporting. >> yeah, you know, ruby freeman was a private figure when this happened. she was captured on security camera in atlanta in a voting center and what was her crime here? she took ballots from underneath a desk, placed them on a desk and started counting them again as per the instructions from inside of the room. that's what was going on there. but to them, to the trump administration that was trying to find anything at that moment to say that there was fraud in this election, you know, they used the security camera footage to say that she was somehow...