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Hurting them at the polls and thing you have to win votes. Do you think it is clear that Donald Trump is politics driven and not Policy Or Principle . I think that definitely is where he is at. If you recall in the midterm elections of 22 he threw the prolife committee under the bus and blamed us for not having the red tsunami that we were supposed to have. Those who are authentically pro Life Life like governor Ron Desantis and governor kim reynolds, not only did they win in 2022, but they express the Red Wave in Florida And Iowa that was predicted. I think on the prolife issue, on the life i...

Galvanized and said someone will have his back as he had my back. My concerns are some of the things he just mentioned and hes not with us on the Life Issue right now. Hes not with us on the Gender Issue right now. There seem to be a lot of things and what are you for . Its not just about winning the White House and what will you do, and what will you surround yourself with . Ron desantis who has led on all these things and took a Tossup State and dominated it to deep red in the midterm elections, and i think hes our best shot to win the White House in 2024. So if 2024 is the most important el...

The same question at a Fox News Town hall recently and he said thats why we are getting beat because of the Life Issue we need to win. He said about governor santos and governor reynolds signing the heartbeat was an awful thing. On the gender issue, when Megan Kelly asked him can a man become a woman, he could not answer that. Those are issues that we have concerns with today. I can see why evangelicals are appreciative to what he did in his term as president , but now they need to look clear eyed about who could win 2024 and who can lead in our issues. You brought up the two Town Halls, the T...

What people want to hear. >> yeah, look, laura, obviously the cultural stuff matters, the life issue matters. >> laura: you bet. >> american values matters. and you and i agree on that. we also have to recognize that most americans are voting their pocketbooks and rightfully so. if you think of the entire trump campaign, he still is talking about issues that most conventional republicans are terrified of, including by the way his competitors in the republican primary field. is he talking about trade. is he talking about the fact that immigration steals wages from working and middle class ameri...

Hillary clinton would have filled that vacancy. >> laura: they would prefer right now, if waner and those guys could choose, whether it was donald trump, i bet they would say the same about desantis actually, but trump versus biden, they would pick biden, no doubt about it. >> the good news is, iss that 40-50 million evangelical and pro life faithful roman catholics rejected the advice. they overcame their concerns about trump, they voted for him, they elected him, he appointed not one, not two but three supreme court justices and today rowe is on the ash heap of history. >> laura: they think ...