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Looking at. >> yes. >> i'm not campaigning for him here but we all were in the room and he is the grandson of a pennsylvania coal miner and you still see that. he doesn't boil things down for people. he says it like he feels it and it's not the most succint message, not the tightest message, but he is a real guy and you sense that. >> and there is a contrast to mitt romney for whom many people do, even people who admire romney, he has always had that problem of coming across like a stiff and phony to some people. rick santorum does not come across that way. i don't think he did anything here i...

>> yes. >> i'm not campaigning for him here but we all were in the room and he is the grandson of a pennsylvania coal miner and you still see that. he doesn't boil things down for people. he says it like he feels it and it's not the most succint message, not the tightest message, but he is a real guy and you sense that. >> and there is a contrast to mitt romney for whom many people do, even people who admire romney, he has always had that problem of coming across like a stiff and phony to some people. rick santorum does not come across that way. i don't think he did anything here in a politica...

Is the higher priority? >> elevellability. >> why? >> because if we have more of the same our values aren't going to matter. >> which is more important, a candidate with brains or a candidate with values? >> both. >> values. >> how many of you say values? i'm shocked. >> because of the sanctitity of life issue, because of families, because issues we face, kids coming to school with identity crisis. >> why is more important than brains. >> i think intelligent people will make good decisions and if you aren't direction by values you will make stupid visions. >> if you have good values you make g...

Santorum on the abortion issue, on the life issue. i assume what he said in his statement today -- you would find it somewhat less objectionable to him saying i can't believe -- it's remarkable for a black man to say that? >> i would find it a little bit -- the former senator is make a really dangerous mistake of mixing two deadly things together in politics, abortion and race. he's mixing them together and drinking. it's a shame. the problem with that is what he's fundamentally saying is because barack obama's black, he should think a certain way, and that he can't believe barack obama doesn'...