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The public can't see. read what -- read in the back of the book what some of the great founders of this country said about secretive governments. >> did you believe it was in the public interest, that wikileaks reveal, for example, that colonel gadhafi had four mistresses? >> i could care less how many women colonel gadhafi has. >> but is it in the public interest to reveal that information? >> i don't know. it's gossip. that doesn't bother me. >> but when you were governor, you hated that kind of gossip against you and your family. in fact, you detested the media that spread any kind of gossi...

Read what -- read in the back of the book what some of the great founders of this country said about secretive governments. >> did you believe it was in the public interest, that wikileaks reveal, for example, that colonel gadhafi had four mistresses? >> i could care less how many women colonel gadhafi has. >> but is it in the public interest to reveal that information? >> i don't know. it's gossip. that doesn't bother me. >> but when you were governor, you hated that kind of gossip against you and your family. in fact, you detested the media that spread any kind of gossip -- >> they didn't sp...

Governor, you hated that kind of gossip against you and your family. in fact, you detested the media that spread that kind of gossip. >> they didn't spread gossip about my family. >> your son, right? >> they trumped up charges. >> that kind of family gossip, private life stuff, isn't that where the line should be drawn with wikileaks? why do you support everything they put out. you were so so vie call about any private material coming out about you. >> okay, then why is it okay for our -- why is it okay for them to expose my private stuff? >> i'm not saying it is, but if you felt strongly that...

It doesn't bother me. >> but when you were the governor, you hated that kind of gossip against you and your family. in fact, you detested the media that spread that kind of gossip. >> they didn't spread gossip about my family. >> your son, right? >> they trumped up charges. >> that kind of family gossip, private life stuff, isn't that where the line should be drawn with wikileaks? why do you support everything they put out. you were so so vie call about any private material coming out about you. >> okay, then why is it okay for our -- why is it okay for them to expose my private stuff? >> i'm ...