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Altered. >> in those pictures, he had drawn what looked like a rope or belt around the neck of one of -- of the left side of the mouth, he had drawn blood. >> hall insisted it was all just staged, to make a play for attention. to feel important to police. >> i put a bunch of stuff in that van that i drove around with because i knew they'd eventually search my van and find them. >> during larry's trial, his twin brother, gary, tried to provide him an alibi. still, federal prosecutor larry beaumont, got hall convicted of kidnapping jessica roach. >> in the federal system, if you're guilty of a k...

Roach. >> in the federal system, if you're guilty of a kidnapping, if that kidnapping resulted in a death, them under the sentencing guidelines, it's mandatory life term. >> the jessica roach case was over, but the disappearance of tricia reitler remained unsolved and her parents, gary and donna, would not stop looking. >> we walked the sides of the roads. we walked the riverbeds. we looked under the culverts. we ended up going to crack houses because somebody had a lead. >> if you see something on the side of the road, a garbage bag, whatever, it's like, could that be her? >> it was just a ho...

Jon: he is doing a life term. >> he is doing a life term. he has appeal pending potentially. it is important that he doesn't take witness stand under oath cross-examined by a experienced prosecutor and get himself under hot water. agreeing with jonna, i don't see him taking the stand in her case. if they call him i think he will plead the fifth so he doesn't have to testify. jon: he went on to tell wral in north carolina, here i am a black man in an apartment with a dead white lady who is suing me. my wife's story didn't seem strong enough to compel somebody that there wasn't foul play because...

So did the story but that will help amanda hayes. because the other interesting thing prosecutors added the charge accessory after the fact in addition to the first-degree murder of amanda hayes. which means prosecutors probably think there is a good chance they can't prove first-degree murder at her and can point the finger at empty chair, the guy who really did it, my husband is serving life term for the murder right now. jon: hard to understand. he is saying basically, phil, that his wife did kill her but it was all in self-defense yet he is doing life without parole on a first-degree murde...

Segregation for a period of time. but if we know that two people are in a relationship, generally we don't do anything with that. if they are not openly having sex -- you can have a relationship that doesn't have sex involved. >> as far as the sex part is concerned, it is very, very frustrating and uncomfortable, especially if that's something you really want to do because you have to try to beat the police and inmates. what i mean by that, it's done quick and quietly. >> keith mason, who goes by the name "precious" is a divorced former pastor serving a life term for robbery and aggravated ass...