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>> bill: he is out and he is walking around. >> is he walking around. >> bill: what siewnk about that, stacy? >> it's a reckless, reckless decision by the governor. he is entitled to pardon whoever he wants regardless of public opinion. but, when you pardon a man who was denied parole by a parole board two weeks before in december. >> bill: two weeks before the pardon this guy was denied parole. >> before the pardon, this governor recklessly signs this pardon without analyzing who he is pardoning. >> bill: we would like to have governor barbour to appear here. 18 years in prison is not justice...

Walking around. >> is he walking around. >> bill: what siewnk about that, stacy? >> it's a reckless, reckless decision by the governor. he is entitled to pardon whoever he wants regardless of public opinion. but, when you pardon a man who was denied parole by a parole board two weeks before in december. >> bill: two weeks before the pardon this guy was denied parole. >> before the pardon, this governor recklessly signs this pardon without analyzing who he is pardoning. >> bill: we would like to have governor barbour to appear here. 18 years in prison is not justice for shooting a woman in the ...

Segregation for a period of time. but if we know that two people are in a relationship, generally we don't do anything with that. if they are not openly having sex -- you can have a relationship that doesn't have sex involved. >> as far as the sex part is concerned, it is very, very frustrating and uncomfortable, especially if that's something you really want to do because you have to try to beat the police and inmates. what i mean by that, it's done quick and quietly. >> keith mason, who goes by the name "precious" is a divorced former pastor serving a life term for robbery and aggravated ass...

More comfortable. but i don't believe that it any way -- [ talking over each other ] >> i think bob those are excellent points. they have complete autonomy. these are life terms. no one can kick these justices . there have been justices served in their late 80s, early 90s. certainly they have the autonomy, they have the life term. >> agreed. [ talking over each other ] >> gregg: guys we have to leave it at that we are out of time. we'll wait and see what happens. thank you both. >> heather: bye-bye hangover speaking of christmas and holiday parties. a new drug promises to help you shake off th...

January. his crimes carry a mandatory life term. back to on the record with greta. we continue with congressman darrell issa. >> you have subpoenaed these documents. have you tried to ask for them through subpoena because the subpoena serving ratcheted up the tension between capitol hill and the justice department and the white house. have you asked for it and has it been denied or they are slow to get it to you? >> we have been slow rolled even when we had is. but we asked repeatedly, we negotiated. what we found is they mark virtually everything as law enforcement sensitive, treats it as...