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Is not yet sold? >> well, with $200 million of negative publicity both from the health insurance industry and anti-public -- what would you call it -- anti-government idealogues who don't think there should be any public role yet support medicare. there are some contradictions here. but the fact is, yes, more needs to be done, but the most eloquent statement of all will be from the experience the people have, if they have a pre-existing condition in their family, if they have been subjected to lifetime limits, when they get their check in august that says you're getting a refund because your h...

Negative publicity both from the health insurance industry and anti-public -- what would you call it -- anti-government idealogues who don't think there should be any public role yet support medicare. there are some contradictions here. but the fact is, yes, more needs to be done, but the most eloquent statement of all will be from the experience the people have, if they have a pre-existing condition in their family, if they have been subjected to lifetime limits, when they get their check in august that says you're getting a refund because your health insurance company spent more money on cor...

Health bill that there are are benefits that people are starting to see in their every day life. when the kids graduate from college and before they get a job they still have health insurance. people on medicare who fell no the doughnut hole and had $600 of bills to pay on prescription drugs are covered. families with children with preexisting conditions don't have to worry about whether they will qualify or hit lifetime limits. >> chris: you say the debate should stop. you know it is not going to stop. republicans including governor romney are talking about repeal and replace. are you saying ...

Was the implementation to date of the health bill there are benefits and people are seeing in their everyday life, when their kids graduate from college and before they get a job they still have health insurance and if people are on medicare and fell into the doughnut hole and have $600 of bills to pay on prescription drugs they are covered and families with children with preexisting conditions don't have to worry about whether they'll qualify or hit lifetime limits. what we need to do is get on with the implement implementation and what is what we need to do. >> chris: you say the debate shou...

Conditions cannot be denied health care coverage. there are no restrictions on annual dollar limits for benefits, no lifetime limits. these are things that are, maybe they don't sound sexy in a two-second bite but they are not hard to sell once you actually explain it to someone. >> i don't think there's any doubt the outcomes are, i mean, the proposed outcomes are attractive to a lot of people. the question is what are the mechanisms and they are confusing and difficult in a country this large to put together a plan that with will did -- withstands the political test. it's a very difficult st...