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Still having to reconcile what he heard all these years later. >> i have to think they're all in that senator flake moment. they're trying to figure out, i have party and i have country. everybody is saying country over party but this got to be one of those defining decisions for their entire career because this is a lifetime point. i don't think they will ever be 100% certain but they have to get to a place where they can at least defend their decision. i don't think they will ever feel that way. >> defend it now. defend it in 2019. defend it in 2020 and you're right 20 to 30 years from now.

This confirmation process is a joke. it is a farce. and both parties allow it to continue because they benefit in turn. so do you think with kavanaugh, who is very politically savvy, he'll say all the right things. he won't say any of the wrong things. he gets on the bench and then he's going to be just like gorsuch and he's on that list because he wants to get after roe v. wade if he gets the chance. >> i dismiss that. i think that's a giant red herring. >> roe v. wade? >> no. look. listen. the beautiful thing about federal judges as you both know, because you're both esteemed lawyers, right?...

Far above and beyond the call of duty to consult with both sides to make sure it's not just the federalists are happy. >> you think kavanaugh poses like all these guys do on left and right, men and women -- let's be honest. this confirmation process is a joke. it's a farce, and both party as lou it to continue because they benefit in turn. so do you think with kavanaugh, who is very politically savvy, he'll say all the right things. he won't say any of the wrong things. he gets on the bench and then he's going to be just like gorsuch and he's on that list because he wants to get after roe v. w...

Lifetime point is real. listen, brett kavanaugh is an credibly qualified jurist. i've known brett since 1998. >> you think he'd overturn roe v. wade? >> listen, as you know, my former boss, chris, was a guy named arnold specter. >> yeah, we're waiting for you to answer the question, dave. go ahead. i love hearing your bio. >> listen, my former boss used to refer to it as superstar sta decisis, something that's been reviewed so many times that it's settled law. i think that may be the case with roe. i don't think -- listen, when brett kavanaugh gets sworn in, it doesn't automatically get overtu...

I also don't have an opening statement, but i would like to take a moment to just introduce a few people who are here today. i'll start with my wife, annie donaldson talley. she is not only the love of my life, she is the best lawyer in the family. if it wasn't for the sacrifices she made both professionally and personally, there is no way i could be here. >> yeah, true. brett j. talley nominated for a lifetime point as federal judge despite only having three years practicing law told the judiciary committee there is no way he could be there if it weren't for his wife. and that is almost certa...