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Simulate lightning to make sure essentially that the aircraft is engineered to shed that electricity to not penetrate the skin of the plane to become a catastrophic situation, so it is engineered to deal with the weather conditions, but the weather becomes when a pilot is finding himself or herself in this situation, does this individual react properly. so it could be a combination of the weather pattern and how did this pilot react. >> i believe we will try one more time with alister on the phone. are you there, alister? okay. with we are having some problems getting alister and the grem lynn...

>> the captain had 6100 flying hours and the first officer, 2,275 flying hours s that significant? is it substantial? was that an experienced crew? >> yeah. it is an experienced crew. when you listen to how many flight hours each of the pilots had, you know, whether it be mentioned quite a bit although we don't know definitively what went wrong. often time you hear about whether it's thunderstorms or lightning, turbulence, i visited boeing. it's a different manufacturer. but all manufacturers put their planes through the same sort of testing. boeings, for example, during high visit there, they...

Listening to what the pilot requested, it's that weather will very much be an issue here, of course just based on the information that we have now. but we all know and i spent some time at boeing, different manufacture, but they all do the same thing when it comes to engineering these planes. boeing's facility when i visited that facility in seattle, they have their own lightning lab. they put these planes as they are building them through a lightning lab. they create assimilate lightning within the lab to make sure that these planes are engineered to withstand lightning and turbulence. so the...