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Is probably not doing a great job position. >> understand that going to vote on who is going to be better for the country than who is going to be hosting "dancing with the stars." >> yeah. we like ryan seacrest. but although ryan has had more experience in business than obama. >> ryan would be great at the job. >> he is a pretty interesting guy. >> very smart in business. very smart. but, bill, i think, look, you are on to something. because the president has spent enormous amount of time over the past three and a half years burning his likability factor. because, he came and ran on this hope ...

Is probably not doing a great job position. >> understand that going to vote on who is going to be better for the country than who is going to be hosting "dancing with the stars." >> yeah. we like ryan seacrest. but although ryan has had more experience in business than obama. >> ryan would be great at the job. >> he is a pretty interesting guy. >> very smart in business. very smart. but, bill, i think, look, you are on to something. because the president has spent enormous amount of time over the past three and a half years burning his likability factor. because, he came and ran on this hope ...

Is probably not doing a great job position. >> understand that going to vote on who is going to be better for the country than who is going to be hosting "dancing with the stars." >> yeah. we like ryan seacrest. but although ryan has had more experience in business than obama. >> ryan would be great at the job. >> he is a pretty interesting guy. >> very smart in business. very smart. but, bill, i think, look, you are on to something. because the president has spent enormous amount of time over the past three and a half years burning his likability factor. because, he came and ran on this hope ...

>> i'll work as hard as i can on the likability piece. >> he seems a perfectly likable gentleman. i don't understand it. >> we'll get over that one. >> joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. now an msnbc news political analyst. and erin mcpike reporter for real clear politics. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> our pleasure. >> thank you. >> governor, let me start with you. how worried should romney and his campaign be about this likability factor? at which point does it become too late to change poplar opinion? >> well, it's not too late yet. but it's gettin...

Misleading, unfair and untrue. there was no evidence that mitt romney shipped jobs overseas. >> i guess my question is, here you have a president who is very well liked. he kills mitt romney on the polls in the likability issue. and you're calling him a liar. so to the point you think we should be talking about the economy, to the extent that romney has a strong line on the economy-- >> i think they need to go after these attacks and say, hey, listen, when you were candidate obama, you had a history of having a really negative attack person. it was like 6-1 against john mccain. the likability ...