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Affairs and knowledge? >> no. that's the perfect example. people don't vote on foreign policy, firstly, unless there's a major event like a terrorist attack or a war where american soldiers are on the battlefield. people don't vote on foreign policy. i don't think this election will be about foreign policy. governor bush at the time showed you can have very little knowledge and probably very little curiosity about foreign affairs and still be president. it's not going to hurt them and there are important questions people should ask them. do you want donald trump's fingers on the nuclear code? ...

The electorate is but i think it's clear this is something that will be part of the hillary clinton project for the next year and a half the f she is the nominee is going to be addressing this issue of giving a reason for voters to have a perceptions but about her that is more favorable than unfavorable. >> so she has this issue about the -- the likability issue, the trustworthiness. do you think the issue on -- does she understand and not just for hillary clinton but jeb bush and marco rubio as well does she understand my problems, that's a huge thing. voters want to know that someone underst...

It is a likability issue. can the voter connect with her? and i think that is something she's going to have to deal with. and i think with her campaign. even her communications director came out not long ago saying we are sacrificing our coverage because she's not out there talking about the issues talking to the press. and i think that there is a void there coming from her campaign. >> i've never understood why hillary clinton is so guarded to doing one-on-one interviews. i've never understood. it is almost as if it is a royal family kind of thing. and why? if you want -- if you want to repre...

Talk about "the washington post"/abc poll which has questions like, who would you rather have as a ship captain in a storm or whom would you prefer to have dinner with at your home? barack obama favored strongly on both of those questions, at least. >> yeah. >> what's your take away? >> we get a little bit of flack for people who says who cares who you would rather be a ship captain of the storm or dinner about. >> what does it tell you? >> part of a huge poll like the nbc wall street journal poll, tons of questions, these are two or three questions as part of that, but two, i think it gets to...

Speech. that is the worst number since gallup started tracking this back in 1996. why do you think romney was so poorly received? >> i think there's clearly a challenge romney has in having to try and you know, compete with the the president. especially on this likability issue. where i think one of the things, if you were watching the pool feed or cspan or something, you might have seen a lot of these humanizing stories. none of that stuff was in the prime time 10:00 hour and i think they really struggled with some of that. plus, you had this clint eastwood side show. it went kind of late. >>...