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June. a guy who went on to win the white house. >> to your polls schmols comment, among independents obama at 35%, romney at 29, undecided 36%. >> that is the big number in that poll. it's amazing to me. it gives romney a lot of room to grow. the case for romney to say i've had, if you're making the case why he's viable, he's had a horrible four months, huge problems with various constituencies, a huge likability problem, on the economic issues neck and neck, 36% of the independent vote undecided. if i'm romney i'm looking at my bad first half of my basketball game and thinking if i can start ...

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Right now. i think that's something that the obama campaign needs to worry about. but if they can convincingly answer this notion that barack obama is in over his head with the kind of speech he gave tonight, i think he's going to be in very good shape. as for mitt romney, how do you fix the likability problem? how do you do that? how do you do that? because if you -- >> got time. >> come up with a better dog story. >> if he could -- if he could do that, he could make more of a race out of this. instead, i was talking to david axelrod in the obama campaign earlier tonight. romney's words are h...

Way? >> politics is like the eighth grade political playground. nobody wants to play with the losers. it is not so bad that barack obama is quote, cool. here's the problem. mitt romney has a likability problem. barack obama doesn't. the country looks at barack obama and says 46%, he's doing fine. but he's 60 something% in the likability. what is mitt romney? in the 30s. he isn't one of the cool kids right now. how do you get cool? you tear down the cool kid. >> to me, i have to be honest with you. this sounds bananas to be having this conversation about is he cool, is he not? i realize that th...