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Some of the reasons some of these fbi officials like mccabe have been leaving. >>paul: thank you all. still ahead, president trump delivering his first day of the union address this week. so how did he do? former white house presbytery ari fleischer is here with the look at the president performance and the democratic response. ♪ (vo) make her day with just one touch. with fancy feast creamy delights, she can have just the right touch of real milk. easily digestible, it makes her favorite entrées even more delightful. fancy feast creamy delights. love is in the details. >> this in fact is o...

How robust has that been? >> bob mueller has been quiet during this investigation. it's very par for the course. this is sort of a tactic that they take to stay silent because then they can't be criticized. then you see those coming forward who are speaking for the fbi like mccabe. they become sort of punch bag. they are the only ones who can speak, who are speaking pubbingpubbing -- publicly. it's uncomfortable for them. i think bob mueller will be fine for now. you hear from folks like bob corker on the hill, senator kruk grassley and others that they support his investigation and see his im...

That's right. there is no other way to look at it. it's hard to know what mccabe was thinking when he had that conversation with reince priebus. and it's hard to know what he was thinking when he had the follow-up call and when comey had the follow-up call when he confirmed the same thing, if that indeed is what they did. part of the problem is the fbi -- senior fbi officials, people like comey, people like mccabe are at the white house, they're involved in intelligence matters, the president referees disputes between the fbi and other agencies, they have a lot of equities in play at the white...

Was thinking when he had the follow-up call and when comey had the follow-up call when he confirmed the same thing, if that indeed is what they did. part of the problem is the fbi -- senior fbi officials, people like comey, people like mccabe are at the white house, they're involved in intelligence matters, the president referees disputes between the fbi and other agencies, they have a lot of equities in play at the white house which goes to show how awkward it is for them to investigate the president and, given what they've done, how compromised. if this is true, how compromised they are. bec...

People comey confided in immediately afterwards, he can collaborate comey's story. it helps corroborate trump's mental state, why he's going after people, and it doesn't particularly help trump. >> and some may view mccabe as a witness. you look at what richard painter said, the ethics lawyer under george w. bush said, he said "you don't like mccabe because he is a witness to your obstruction of justice." cnn reported that mccabe testified in congress that comey told him about the loyalty pledge that trump asked him to make. what's the likelihood that mueller is looking at mccabe as a witness ...