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>> and how much were you and the taskforce members paid for this work? >> well, we're not going to provide you with a line by line. >> why wouldn't you do that, congressman. >> because it is none of your business primarily. >> if you're submitting a report to be evaluated as an independent report and you're being paid by the people who you are giving the report to, the credibility of the report rests on a lot of things, including that payment relationship. so i would like to ask you how much did the national rifle association pay you individually to do this, and are they still paying you? >> l...

Work? >> well, we're not going to provide you with a line by line. >> why wouldn't you do that, congressman. >> because it is none of your business primarily. >> if you're submitting a report to be evaluated as an independent report and you're being paid by the people who you are giving the report to, the credibility of the report rests on a lot of things, including that payment relationship. so i would like to ask you how much did the national rifle association pay you individually to do this, and are they still paying you? >> lawrence,let me tell you, i compiled this group of experts to prov...

It's been a problem for many decades with spending? >>, but this is the problem. if we're going to go out and spend literally by the tens of billions of dollars, we've got to have the oversight and the responsibility, so, we're so loosy goose on that and furloughing people in utah that are going to be in the military at the same time we're out there obligating tens of billions in afghanistan, makes no sense. >> greta: why isn't your oversight actually connecting and creating a product that we're actually getting our money back or stopping it from going out. >> we've introduced legislation and ...

Million dollars and everybody is appalled and voted your way. there's no one that resisted it. so i don't get why that isn't being done by other members now with other budgets, line by line? >> well, hopefully they're looking and listening right now. and maybe they'll stay in washington d.c. and they'll decide and their committee of jurisdiction to get a piece of the budget. but first of all you've got to understand something, it's been 1400 days since we've even had a budget up in washington d.c. so, that's the first place where we need to start is the house and the senate. passing the budget...

I'm trying to grab the cleaver, but he's swinging. >> now the ensuing struggle between the crazed man and the firefighters, jose ortiz and james trainer was on a security camera and new york's bravest put their lives on the line in order to subdue the attacker until the police arrived. the 28-year-old man has been charged with attempted murder and remains behind bars at this hour and the wife according to the new york post is listed in critical condition at a new york area hospital, but she is thankfully expect today survive and thanks to the horrific actions of the new york city fire departme...