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When that has not been debated at this time and when any sliding back into standoff mode would throw us into overtime on the debt ceiling with predictably catastrophic results. where did this come from? why is this in the bill? joining us is jon tester of montana. thanks for being with us. it's nice to have you here. >> it's great to be with you, rachel. >> should we have expected all of these individual line items in the bill that passed tonight or was this a surprise? >> it's a surprise. i mean, i think that this stuff was put in with all the best of intentions. but it's one of the reasons -...

As obama care is implemented and everyone should have access to a quality affordable health care -- >> you two were posting to me a few minutes ago, you would do a deal in a room together. so come on, marcia, that's the opening game bet from debbie. go back and let's do a deal here. >> i will. i will. what you have to realize is these extraneous matters that are a part of a budget, they are line items in a budget and if you're going to look at a budget at appropriations, at a funding mechanism, you have to say where are we spending that money. >> okay. do a deal. i want you two -- you two live...

Inevitable kinks that will arise as obama care is implemented and everyone should have access to a quality affordable health care -- >> you two were posting to me a few minutes ago, you would do a deal together so marsha, that's the opening gambit from debbie. go back and let's do a deal here. >> i will. i will. what you have to realize is these extraneous matters that are a part of a budget, they are line items in a budget and if you're going to look at a budget at appropriations, at a funding mechanism, you have to say where are we spending that money. >> okay. do a deal. i want you two -- y...

Act to pay the nation's bills. like i said many times, if we can agree to have the government reopened which the republicans shut down with holding obama care as ransom and agree that we can't jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united states and work towards that separate and apart from dealing with the inevitable kinks that will arise as obama care is implemented and everyone should have access to a quality affordable health care -- >> you two were posting to me a few minutes ago, you would do a deal together so marsha, that's the opening gambit from debbie. go back and let's do a de...

Believe that's possible? >> not in my experience. i'll be shocked if we find that's happened. the way auditors are selected, the people -- the computer looks at the return. it looks at the different line items in the return then makes a decision as to which ones are statistically out of line. it's like a coke formula, highly secret. >> megyn: but it can't be easily manipulated. >> complaints come from the outside. >> megyn: my apologize. the show is ending in 5 seconds. thank you, sir. 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've ...