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Any kind of scandal. it's about he, to you, the voter, made you and your family less safe. that's something that stays on the kitchen table. >> let me ask you about what annie reported, that all the people that would normally have the line responsibility for -- for smearing the mueller probe when that was the investigation hanging over this white house, one is in riyadh, which is an irony, we need another hour to delve into. the others are sort of under their desks in a duck and cover. you surprised? >> not at all. and, you know, two things are happening. there's a duck and cover. i know in th...

I -- i had a smile when sean spicer the new press secretary said i found this fascinating. fascinating is one way to put it. frightening is another. >> right. but again you got to give trump -- >> -- hopes -- >> you've got to give him the benefit of let's see how he exexplains what he's quoted as saying on msnbc because again there's one thing about being on the phone with someone you trust, another one contact -- the message you want the american people to hear. >> how would you like to be this morning jim mattis and rex tillerson reading the newspaper and watching the news. >> hmm. >> becaus...

Administration. you reach out for some of those more veteran washington figures. think of reagan and howard baker. after iran-contra. this precedent for this, john podesta is a fascinating figure. he was close to the clintons, chief of staff so he knows how to deal with a hostile congress. he has worked with obama. he ran the transition for him and also built what has been the most successful left of center think tank launched, the center for american progress. someone with very good ties inside the broad democratic coalition and has experience dealing with congress. >> what does it say the pr...

Grenades and mortars to spontaneous demonstrations. >> this probe is just an effort to undermine the pro tension presidential contender as heather would say. that's what dick durbin is talking about today. >> we want to find them and hold them responsible. the consulates are going to be the best for the men and women who work for us. unfortunately this will be caught up in the 2016 presidential campaign. this effort to go after hillary clinton. the reason she wasn't interviewed is she didn't have any direct line responsibility for the decisions that were made. they want to bring her in because...

Over that idea today. democrats trying to say they are trying to discredit secretary kr clinton. >> it has been caught up in the 2016 presidential campaign. the reason she wasn't interviewed is she didn't have a direct line responsibility for the decisions that were made. they want to bring her in because they think it's a good political show. that is unfortunate. >> there is serious questions raised about her chain of command with respect to the talking points when we have four americans murdered. this is about getting to the truth. >> they are continuing to ask questions. >> what might it lo...