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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:44:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:44:00

She was at work when her sister called her and told her police had once again come for sam. >> what'd you think when you heard sam was arrested? >> the same that i always had. like, here we go again. >> nothing to it, and he'll be out soon. >> yeah. >> reporter: after all, they'd detained sam once before and had to release him. but as daron wyatt now explained to sam lopez, this time was different. >> "i've told you before that we wouldn't give up until -- until we were able to bring resolution to this case, and that's where we're at now." >> reporter: but just when it seemed the case was butt...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:06:35:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:06:35:00

>> i think it was a guess sweatshirt. >> reporter: sam readily gave those clothes to the police. he let them search his house too. and he willingly gave samples of his hair and blood. but something about sam's behavior the week cathy was missing bothered her family. mary said she'd repeatedly paged sam looking for cathy, but he was slow to respond. he call you back? >> not at first. >> reporter: but eventually he did? >> eventually, yes. >> reporter: and he said what, he hadn't seen her? >> he hadn't seen her. >> reporter: to all appearances, that was true. and the physical evidence seemed to ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:46:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:46:00

And just months before that trial began, matt murphy learned that sam had a new defense attorney. someone matt knew very well. >> he so is good. and i would be lying if i said my heart was not in my throat. >> reporter: sam's defense attorney lew rosenblum was the former assistant d.a. who supervised the homicide unit. in fact, he was the original prosecutor who back in 1994 didn't think there was enough evidence to charge sam. not only that, lew was the man who brought matt into the homicide unit. >> lew took me under his wing and trained me how to do homicides. >> what's it like to go up aga...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:32:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:32:00

>> larry montgomery is the real deal. i mean, the guy is -- the evidence whisperer. another nickname for him is st. larry. >> reporter: larry sees things other people don't see? >> larry sees things that many people don't see, yeah. and he looks at it from a different perspective. >> reporter: they both felt the key to the case lay in sam lopez's own words, his taped interviews with the original detectives. and they thought the perfect man to listen to those interviews was the evidence whisperer. guilty people have tells, just like in a poker game? >> absolutely. they don't have that innocent ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:37:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180820:07:37:00

Spatter. but in the years since, analysis became possible for touch-dna, the microscopic calling cards many of us leave behind just by putting our hands on something. if sam and javier did place cathy's body in the car's trunk, maybe, thought larry, there would be touch-dna on her clothes. >> search for dna in the areas that might be grabbed. especially areas that might be grabbed that don't have blood on them, from cathy. >> so you looked, what, on the ankles and under her arms? >> ankles, arms, i think under the legs. sometimes, you know, in the -- >> reporter: daron wyatt send out the evide...