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>> the wall street journal is reporting tonight minutes ago that the trump plan as they understand it now is they will not divest. there will be no divesting. they won't be liquidating assets. elizabeth warren's legislation says that's the only way you can do this. liquidate the assets. take the proceeds and put it in a blind trust. and the cancellation made on monday, i think to long-time trump watchers like you, people who have written books about him as you have, tell me if that didn't indicate to you, they're canceling it because they actually have nothing to say. they have no plan to offe...

Government. donald trump won. and he's going to be president. that's the job he said we do. not manage his interests. he's got to put his own personal business work aside and be our president. >> the wall street journal is reporting tonight minutes ago that the trump plan as they understand it now is they will not divest. there will be no divesting. they won't be liquidating assets. elizabeth warren's legislation says that's the only way you can do this. liquidate the assets. take the proceeds and put it in a blind trust. and the cancellation made on monday, i think to long-time trump watchers...

I'm not going to do any more deals. as though that takes this issue off the table. his businesses are constantly being affected by changes in the world. again, it's very concerning when you have a guy who's going to be conducting american foreign policy and making decisions about america's relationship with countries around the world, and, most importantly, having foreign leaders who understand that trump has these big financial stakes in their country and that is going to be part of the context with which he's dealing with them, and are they going to want to do favors for him. are they going ...

And you can't have your daughter sitting in with a head of state as she did with prime minister abe and have your clothing line and other aspects of your business involved in japan and you're kind of tending to that. you have to have a real wall of separation. look, i'm with matt. i think these are two children and a son-in-law who are very close advisers who know him, know his mind, whom he can trust. if he wants them there, that's fine. he's going to have to work so much harder than he's already working to create some separation from the business. i mean, it's the ultimate in what he decried...

Say, what's the latest deal have things blend over. >> matt was saying about liquidating assets and putting it in a blind trust really is the only way to fully actually avoid any appearance of conflict of interest. he's already said in advance of this december 15th press conference that's not happening. so shy of that, he is going to have conflicts of interest problems. he is -- day in and day out, you're absolutely right, anderson, every time he meets with a head of state that runs a country where there's a trump business interest in that country, immediately part of the story that day is goi...