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That has a real human toll, 1,400 migrant worker already dead, estimated up to 4,000 by the time the games happen. i will say one thing that will make this matter a lot more is if fifa sponsors actually decide to drop out. so far, no one has dropped out. visa is making the loudest noises about potentially going away. if sponsors don't drop, are viewers going to drop? are fans going to stop attending? sepp blatter is getting re-elected tomorrow r. they going to change the administration? are they going to reallocate the games? doesn't look like it to me. >> when it comes to money, those things ...

Two-state solution. >> absolutely and the arabs were getting their droves out. that sounded racist to many people. he did retract that but the president would not let it drop, and he's turned what is a personal vitriol into a policy dispute. >> it's no surprise that they don't like each other, but president obama and stephen harper in canada don't like each other, either. says fact that america and israel do have national interests that are aligned, but not completely overlapping is something americans can be -- you can criticize obama without being a racist, and you can -- >> i mean c'mon can...

>> okay, okay. i think i understand. the saudis are saying yeah yeah let it drop and all you people having difficulty getting oil, let it drop below the point where it's economic for you and you'll come running and crawling back to saudi arabia. >> exactly. you become again the swing producer. we've had a very small but very long-term glut in this market place for two years, which the saudis recognize based upon a very undisciplined drilling for shale oil here in the united states. we increased our production by 5 million barrels in the last five years. that needs to come out, at least a good ...

Yeah, let it drop. and all of you people who are getting more difficult to recover oil which is harder to get and more expensive to get out of the ground what we're getting, let it drop below the point where it's economic for you and then you guys feel the pain and then you'll come running crawling back to the kingdom of saudi arabia. >> exactly. you become the swing producer. based upon a very undisciplined drilling for shale wells, we've increased our production by 5 million barrels over the next five years. now, that has to come out, or at least a good piece of that has to come out of the m...

Things, many of them, i'm sure you have already known. >> well, it's gratifying that the u.n. is forcing the rest of the world to pay serious and sustained attention to this issue. the facts that it disclosed yesterday on monday were not a surprise to people who have been following north korea, but the strie gent language, the insistence that all the countries in the world pay attention to this and never let it drop from their attention again is new and important, and i think it will force particularly china to deal with its role in facilitating what north korea does. >> blaine, how does the r...