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I think it is healthy to see the gradual abolition of the death penalty. europe lives without it. i think it mark of a civilized society to enforce order at the lowest level of violence. if you can do it at a level where you don't execute, i think it is a mark of civilization. >> bret: we'll follow this. in the meantime, another topic. tomorrow is officially tax day and tax returns once again in the white house briefing room. >> it is time to say once and for all, is the president never going to release his tax returns? >> we'll have to get back to you on that. >> that would be thrilling. >> r...

You believe france should defend its concept of seculars and liberalism and not give in to these demands. >> yes. the fact is, in france, religion is a private issue. you know, so you shouldn't bring religion into the public space. that's what some muslims are trying to do. >> do you think that when you look at brexit, does it mark, in your mind, a kind of catastrophic failure of the european union? does it mark an unraveling? how do you see it? >> it's a figure. to think about the european union between our british friends, it's sad. on the front page it was written, we miss the british. it's...

They can look at polling data and they can see that, you know, i'm the candidate who is most likely able to beat hillary clinton. they see that. bill: john roberts already in milwaukee, wisconsin. john, good morning there. where are we today with the ben carson back and forth? reporter: good morning to you, bill. ben carson continues to defend himself. this will be a big debate for a number of different reasons. first of all, there are only eight candidates on stage. that's because mike huckabee and -- i've been saying this all morning. mike huckabee and chris christie, an up for a long time, ...

>> of course all lives matter. police lives. and i appreciate mark saying that. police lives do matter. they're doing a thankless job in a dangerous situation. every single moment they're on the street. when something like this happens or they're second ghosts a shooting it doesn't matter. the media is focusing on the black and the white formula. and there is so many shootings and so many violent confrontations across this country. what happened just 30 miles from my home may 5. sergeant greg moore was gunlds down in a similar situation. but he was white and the suspect was white. and nobody w...

Head. my apologies. hold on. our guest has lost his ear piece. i'm going to stand you by because we do have our lawyers here. fox analyst. we'll get back to the other lawyer if we can. the problem is that the tape does not support what the officer said repeatedly after the shooting. and let me just play to the audience what the officer said after the shooting. here us defending his single gunshot to the head of this man. >> he was dragging me. he was dragging me. i thought i was going to get run over. the tape i don't see it mark. i don't think it supports it. >> i disagree. i think the defens...