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The folks there that this is not a jobs killer, that there will be money, $40 million over the next five years allocated to ensure that those folks in your state who work there will still be able to have employment and keep, you know, food on the table for their families. >> well, i hope that he's going to expand the program. what we're really looking for is for the president to keep the promise that he made to close the gap between the shuttle and its successor vehicle which was at the time the constellation and which remains by law today the constellation. i love commercial rockets. i love t...

That's despite programs launched by the federal government in some states to help troubled homeowners. our diana olick joins me now from washington. diana, why aren't these plans helping or working, or have we just not had enough time go by for them to really kick in? >> reporter: you have to look at the big numbers. yes, we did see record foreclosure activity in march. that's made up of notices of defaults and auctions and re repossessi repossessions. when you dig into the numbers, you see the bank repossessions, that is the final stage of foreclosure where the bank takes title of your home, ...

Saying if we need these big visions and things to happen, you've got to allocate the money. that was not a neglect of this new administration. >> well, no doubt congress is underfunded the program, and i am not going to apologize for congress. i think there would be a lot of things wrong up here. and there was a gap under the last administration three years that would be there between shuttle and constellation. and i think the promise was, by this president, that we would close that gap and keep america first in space. and i think we're getting off that track now. they're talking about making ...

Odds because of the case of the 7-year-old boy in tennessee who was sent back to russia. so the program could be slowed down, too. that's another big problem. it already takes a couple years to get through this. and that's the roller coaster. you think it's going to happen faster. and then it's not. and the russian program even before all this happened was notoriously somewhat difficult to get through. for example, you had to go to russia twice in the process to bring the child home. so although there are no suspensions, it could still be difficult, and it could still take a lot of time and a ...

Into space. thanks so much for joining me. >> you're welcome. >> where do you stand on this debate? >> well, i think where we are right now is that we have a shuttle program that is retiring, but we have to have a robust space program. and that robust space program is really supported, empowered, by our research and development, by allowing nasa to do the kind of work that nasa does really well, which is to do -- develop new propulsion systems, to look at how do we move forward? so when i think about this, i'm on the side that president obama's plan is going to move us further. people are sayi...