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Outside of their normal loan processes. $500 million in american money of loans outside the process? this is the type of stuff that goes on 30 years ago in zaire, not in the united states of america. the magnitude of the corruption is just unfathomable. >> and that's the stuff we know. >> right. >> and the other question here is there is all this reporting about there is a lebanese businessman named george nader. again, it's sort of what you said this influence peddling middleman role that he has had. he is now being looked at by the mueller investigation. you have looked into their finances, ...

Oligarchs. they didn't need trump's permission because that's just how trump works. he is a platform for people -- i mean sam nunberg is not atypical of the kind of people you see in trump's orbit. >> and that seems to me a huge part of why the squeak -- it feels like the mueller investigation is squeezing. because there are so -- here is what i would say. it seems plausible to me that donald trump himself didn't do a thing, but thinks that someone around him probably did that seems a plausible thing that has happened. >> we have the president's son-in-law, completely unqualified for his posit...