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System crumbled around the world and gorbachev was given the nobel peace prize in 1990 there was the old line that gorbachev could have one a presidential election in any country in the world except in russia. how do russians today feel about him? we know how vladimir putin and his allies feel as they try to undo what they feel the damage is that gorbachev did. what is the sentiment nationally in russia about gorbachev? >> it ranged from a tiny number of people admiring him to a broad number of people being indifferent to him. after all, 30 years has passed. to a large number of people who loa...

Deferential and in some cases downright afraid of their own voters. and there is -- speaking of goals, there's a massive gulf between how the members of congress in this party view the president and how their voters view the president. the voters, for the most part, like him. love him. a lot of their members of congress loathe him. this is an open secret. has been for years. what happens in those weeks in january when it's uncertain questions. it's an open question. what happens is people like mccarthy take the temperature of their congrate and they hear crickets or they hear, our voters back ...

Looking at that saying, yeah. go tell them. getting excited. the question it raises for me, create a backlash of equal size on the other side? >> i think it does, not new. no different register. clinton on arsenio hall. dating myself. >> saxophone. >> the ways that mtv, rock the vote. seen the intersection. some of us were raised on that. but here the intensity, the register. people who love him will intensify the people who loathe him. people who loathe trump intensify the folks who love him. just american politics as it is. >> that's my question. is there something different with trump with ...

Many people. but there are a lot of folks that want to suggest, look, it wasn't aspirated wasn't our message, it wasn't our choices. much of that same leadership is in place. instead, they want to suggest that somehow he stole the election or that putin gave him the office, which is of course ridiculous. >> bill: those are all devices to generate any real hatred of donald trump. so, he evokes his powerful support for his people who love him, okay, but also, this hatred for people who loathe him. i am wondering, what drives the loathing? is at any one thing? is that his personality? is it a sta...

But there are a lot of folks that want to suggest, look, it wasn't us. it wasn't our message, it wasn't our choices. much of that same leadership is still in place. instead they want to suggest that somehow he stole thee election or that putin gave him the office, which is, of course, ridiculous.e >> bill: those are all devices to generate a real hatred of donald trump. so he evokes this powerful support for his people who lovee him, okay, but also, this hatred for people who loathe him. and i am wondering, what drives the loathing?e is it any one thing? is it his personality? is it a stance o...