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Have been kind of running away from guns in campaigns and running away from the issue because they felt they were hurt by it in the early '90s. and the first time they lost the house of representatives in 40 years, they attributed part of that to the nra and guns. you took it on in the campaign and did it in a republican district, this is newt gingrich's district that you won this campaign in. it was a squeaker, it was close, but you didn't shy away from this issue. you had to appeal to republican voters. how did you do that? >> i think as a mother there are families all over the country, spec...

That on my shoulders. >> i'm sure you did. democrats, since around 1994, have been kind of running away from guns in campaigns and running away from the issue because they felt they were hurt by it in the early '90s. the first time they lost the house of representatives in 40 years, they attributed part of that to the nra and guns. you not only took it on in the campaign, you did it in a republican district. this was newt gingrich's district that you won this campaign in. it was a squeaker, it was close, but you didn't shy away from this issue. you had to appeal to republican voters. how did y...

>> i'm sure you did. democrats, since around 1994, have been kind of running away from guns in campaigns and running away from the issue because they felt they were hurt by it in the early '90s. the first time they lost the house of representatives in 40 years, they attributed part of that to the nra and guns. you not only took it on in the campaign, you did it in a republican district. this was newt gingrich's district that you won this campaign in. it was a squeaker, it was close, but you didn't shy away from this issue. you had to appeal to republican voters. how did you do that? >> i think...

Attracts on college night on wednesday night? >> from what i know, if you are looking to have fun, i know pepperdine is in a quiet area. border li borderline is a fun spot to go dance. a bunch of people here from the south get their friends to go. it is the under 21 crowd. it is a fun place to go because there are not a lot of places to go around here. people just go there to dance and have a good time in the middle of the week. >> so good to hear that at least some of those students were able to get out to another student's home or parents' home near thousand oaks. you know, as a soft target,...

And these parents are telling them, either hide or get out of there, and they're staying on the phone with their students, and they're getting them through these moments. these moments of crisis, and they're trained -- these parents really are heros in these situations. >> but to be on the receiving end of that call, darren, let me bring you into this conversation. to be a parent on the -- it's a whole other level of parenting now. parents have to have instructions for their kids if they call them about an active shooter in school. >> it's traumatic, but children are taught and we as law enfor...