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I think that's really what we're talking about here. to this point, the trump presidency has been a lot more existential. there hasn't been a lot that's affected people on a very human, personal level, and now we're talking about people's health care and there will actually be consequences if this bill is passed and if the repeal obamacare is actually signed into law by president trump. then a year and a half from now, when people are going to be voting again en masse, there will be real consequences that they can measure this presidency to. and what people say they care about today is not goi...

Necessarily, could be able to make hay out of that. this doesn't feel like smart politics but it's much crueller public policy. >> it's real hi completely intellectually dishonest. remember the premise when we started way back? it was that the obamacare exchanges were not doing well enough, that they were dying, they were in a death spiral. put off to the side that's what's going on around the country's not true for just a moment. what does cutting medicaid and giving money to the very rich have to do with that problem? it's completely irrelevant. so the major part of this bill, which the repu...

Republicans are adaptable, learn about the politics piece. governing part, eh, the politics part they're good at. donald trump has picked up the ball. michael, give him credit, he started this idea. you tag her, she's the leader, boss of the democratic party, she's the face. here's donald trump picking up the ball, taunting democrats with it in a way of talking to republicans. >> i hope she doesn't step down. i think it would be a sad day for republicans if she steps down. i would be very, very disappointed if she did. i would like to keep her right where she is, our record is extraordinary ag...

We're not going to hurt people, we won't have coverage. if you look at states that took the deal, took the expansion, that's theoretically where the trump base lives. so you have states like arizona, arkansas, colorado, indiana, iowa, where he keeps going, kentucky which actually expanded and the new governor kind of pulled it back. louisiana, montana, ohio, where rob portman has to make a decision, go back to that list of republicans if we could from the expansion states. so, curt, those republicans, what's going to be more powerful of an argument for them, the idea that the conservative part...

Means sometimes we have to take into account the demographic composition of districts, voting patterns in districts. that's fine and required by federal law. what's not perfemissible is whe you lock one party into power, doesn't matter how many votes one party gets, they always get a majority of seats. >> the other thing happening at the same time you have gerrymandering, locking republicans into power for decades, a decade, how long since this span is, you also have a new wave of voter suppression taking place, under the radar partly thanks to the media. brennan center reports 99 voter suppre...