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That's not how logic works, right. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. that said, of course, one of the things that dowd made really clear to me when we chatted is that the news today and the facts that the president or none of his associates are named or even implied in this indictment is something that they see as cause for celebration. >> ken dilanian, are you still with us? do we still have ken or chuck? >> i'm here. >> ken, let me get you just to reset us a little bit. we're focusing in like a laser, appropriately sew on these 13 indictments. if you pull back just a little bit...

Adjustment to this without the power of actually having the rates increase. the democrats -- some democrats believe they can't get anything. in other words, once all the rates have increased, everything you do after that is a tax cut. even if you reduce four out of the six rates. >> there's your way around that republican pledge. >> some republicans are secretly saying we need you to do that. that's the only way to vote responsibly in a tiny number of republicans. >> the democrats control the senate in the lame duck session. that means you have ben nelson and joe lieberman voting with the demo...

Republican pledge. >> some republicans are secretly saying we need you to do that. that's the only way to vote responsibly in a tiny number of republicans. >> the democrats control the senate in the lame duck session. that means you have ben nelson and joe lieberman voting with the democrats still there. a guy like tester and he gets re-elected. does he vote for anything that could be perceived as a tax hike? you deal with these people in the senate on the democratic side so the logic works for them, too. >> there are democratic senators who learned this less son-in-ont time around, p if we le...

Letterman, they are out there trashing who stands up for christian values. anybody who dares to actually teach their children faith in their home. all of a sudden if you are instilling faith and teaching god, you are a madraa. my 12-year-old will out reason bill maher when it comes to understanding how logic works. he is completely image logical. they have abandoned not just faith in bill maher but abandoned reason, too. they have absolutely nothing to offer this country. yet they are too vitriole who argue about these faith and reason. i look forward to debating in the senate all the folks on...

Letterman, they are out there trashing who stands up for christian values. anybody who dares to actually teach their children faith in their home. all of a sudden if you are instilling faith and teaching god, you are a madraa. my 12-year-old will out reason bill maher when it comes to understanding how logic works. he is completely image logical. they have abandoned not just faith in bill maher but abandoned reason, too. they have absolutely nothing to offer this country. yet they are too vitriole who argue about these faith and reason. i look forward to debating in the senate all the folks on...