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Forces. and the u.s. ambassador to nato, serves as president of the chicago council on global affairs. jason, what goes through your mind, when we listen to what hannah was dedescribing? southeast, and west of that country is under direct threat. what goes through your mind as you watch the advancing of russians in ukraine. >> hannah gave a great report. on the ground, what is happening, deal with that first of all. she broke this down well, in the case of air defense, versus ground artillery. heavy weapons used by infantry or forces on the ground. that is where russia has struggled. logistics...

Driven by people who are not in a position really to do it. >> and yet, again, i come back to this assessment by the u.s. that there have been no major territorial gains for russia since the start of this new push in the donbas region, and all along we've been reporting that they were much more positioned to succeed in this area. so what do you think is russia's problem on the ground there? are you surprised that they aren't making more progress more quickly there in terms of their objective? >> surprised is eroding over time with the compounding and competence demonstrated by the russian army...

Will continue in phase two. there's a good chance given the fact the russians still have logistics problems. they suffer from terrible morale. the united states and nato is ramping up the effort, but it's far too early, i think, to call this one for the ukrainian military. it's a long way to go, and i think it will be four, six, eight weeks before we have a better sense of where the trajectory is going. >> so how discouraging is it when you have u.n. nations from china to brazil to india and 21 others refusing to suspend russia from the human rights council in the midst of this invasion. what ...

The war down to the east and attacking to the donetsk, and the hluhansk region, the donbas i'm not sure they have been able to reinforce those regions. it will be several weeks before they get any kind of capability to reinforce the actions. they are certainly showing activity in the east but it isn't significant right now. not only do they have personnel problems, but they also have logistics problems. you've seen the line of russian vehicles that are lining up in the north and people are making a big deal out of that, but truthfully, i've seen that column on your film clips, and there's a lo...

Ammunition carriers within the ship and that caused the damage and smoke on the ship, but if reports are to be believed that that ship has leaned toward star board or port, i don't know, i'm not a navy guy, but it's sinking fast. it has a crew of about 500 people. it had a lot of equipment on board, and it certainly was capable of reinforcing any actions that russia was perceived to have started in the odesa region. >> general, we saw the report showing us how tense the situation already is in eastern ukraine. france's military is warning russia could launch a large scale offensive in the donb...