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>> do they need to come to you to ask? hey listen, i've got an idea and let me propose something for this plan. is that the way it works in congress and one has to ask nicely for help. >> katy, typically when you're in the minority, you don't really have the ability to initiate, at least on the floor. that's controlled by the republican majority. and when they were putting together their plan in the secret, in the darkroom and we were down looking for the bill, it was under lock and key with security guards. capitol police guarding the room, we asked for an opportunity to review the bill. they...

Or might not be covered. that's a challenge. even more challenging are the premiums because they only got look at one part of this picture. they didn't get ahance because of the way this bill's going forward without phase two or phase three. truly look at the low cost, innovative personalized plans that states can approve going forward. in senior's premiums skyrocketed -- >> according to this plan are going to skyrocket. >> well and i respectfully disagree -- >> one part of the cbo and tout it and say it's totally on the money. talking about -- >> no, and i didn't say that. what i said was -- ...

Committee. why are you standing by this plan? >> because it delivers on our promise to give people affordable care that's personalized for them. not for washington, and that's what cbo said. we also promised we are going to make sure americans aren't murdered by the nearly $1 trillion of taxes on their jobs, on their health care plans and on the economy. we also said restoring control out of washington, restoring it to the states and the individuals so they could choose a plan that's right for them, that's why this plan is so important and by the way, while we are doing it, americans have said...

Today, in fact, who've found a way to be exempted from obamacare and high premiums. who with a personal credit they can use to take from job to job, state to state, home to start a business or raise a family. choose a plan that's right for them, whether they're very young or very old. those are the americans who are going to have opportunity to have access that frankly they don't have today. >> $1700 for health care, under the gop plan, that person would be paying over $14,000 for health care. how is it affordable for that person? >> well, under those assumptions it wouldn't be. those assumpti...

The gop plan. >> well, and here's why. because for the first time governors will have the choice to actually apply med daddy to their state, to design it for their communities, not the way washington wants to do it over time -- >> that does go against what the president promised. >> but that doesn't mean there is anything less than higher quality care. what it means is washington won't be telling governors you have to do it our way, because we know, there's a difference between manhattan, kansas, and manhattan, new york city, and nrk should be designed differently to reach families in those co...