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1986 when we're told all the same thing, amnesty first and all this great enforcement off in the future. it never happened. and if you want to cut the deficit, there are other ways to do it and the cbo says there's no deficit reduction the first ten years and unemployment will be elevated until 2020. look it up, governor. >> -- respected conservative, but -- >> thank you very much. i feel something bad is coming after that, though. >> the tea party, there is a political side to this. here's the utmost politician. the republican party is going to become a minority party. maybe all those tea par...

Fight over key security post depending on who the president puts forward, particularly with the immigration debate, a key component of what the secretary of homeland security does? >> well, guys in your line of work tend to use the word "fight" when we're having a debate. some of the president's nominees have been quite controversial. i mean, that's what we do in the senate. we have big debates over big issues. but they've all been confirmed. we'll take a look at whoever the new secretary of homeland security is. i can't guarantee you there won't be a spirited debate. look, we have over 300 mi...

And i think that it is very conservative for many of us that have been in the immigration movement. and have said, let's be fair. i don't know how more fair you can be to think 13 years to make people natural citizens. the dysfunction of this congress around this, and around blocking appointments, and taking food stamps out of the farm bill, i mean, it's any wonder the public has any respect for them at all. >> final point on this, rich, before a break. >> the structure of this bill is exactly the same of 1996, oh, you'll get the amnesty first and all this enforcement off in the future. it nev...

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he has three words of advice today for the obama white house to try to salvage the party's chances of victory in 2012. those words, "fire, indict and fight." james carville is joining us now. james, you created quite a stir in this article you've written for cnn.com. let me read a couple of lines. among other things you say, "what should the white house do now? one word came to mind, panic. this is what i would say to president barack obama. the time has come to demand a plan of action that requires a complete change from the direction you are headed." what are you talking about? >> ...