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Potter. >> so ted, you think the jury got it wrong in this case? >> i believe that they did. i respect their decision. i do believe that they did. look -- >> okay. hold your thoughts a second, ted. i'll loop back. i want to get mercedes in here. there's this extraordinary moment in the courtroom just now where we saw the defense ask judge chu to essentially release kim potter, now a convicted criminal, found criminally culpable for the young man to be released on bail. have you ever seen anything like that before? >> the defense attorneys usually tried to do that. the judge made the right call...

To restore rights to humanitarian protections that have been passed by congress into law. and yet we're seeing basically more of the same, and the expansion or the reintroduction program and the expansion of it as an example of that. of course the administration did face this court order that required them to put the program back into place, but the expansion which extends beyond just spanish speakers to people from other countries, you know, it really calls into question what the administration is actually going to do, and it has a lot of democrats saying, hey, i feel like i voted for a new p...

And yet we're seeing basically more of the same, and the expansion or the reintroduction program and the expansion of it as an example of that. of course the administration did face this court order that required them to put the program of course, the administration did face this court order that required them to put the program back into place, but the expansion, which extends beyond just spanish speakers to people from other countries, it really calls into question what the administration is actually going to do and it has a lot of democrats saying, hey, i feel like i voted for a new process...

Theory and all that, i don't buy into that. there's a lot of factors that go into every election, and every election is different. so i think that we can look at virginia and take away some things, but see it as a projection. >> i want to loop back to dean obeidallah's point, which is that voters also have a lot to be angry with republicans over, right? they have a right to be angry over the attacks on reproductive rights and access. they have a right to be angry over their efforts to keep people from voting in a variety of other ways, tinker with our democracy. how do democrats harness that a...

I think that we can take away from virginia. whether it's about critical race theory and all that, i don't buy into that. there's a lot of factors that go into every election, and every election is different. so i think that we can look at virginia and take away some things, but see it as a projection. >> i want to loop back to dean obeidallah's point, which is that voters also have a lot to be angry with republicans over, right? they have a right to be angry over the attacks on reproductive rights and access. they have a right to be angry over their efforts to keep people from voting in a var...