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Way. i think most people do pull themselves together. do what it is that needs to be done. sometimes your thrown for a loop for a little while and then you start to reclaim. i think it's that getting back on the right path. that's the hard part. you know, you can't let yourself go down the chasm. you have to really get yourself back on the right path. >> larry: was the worst when they first told you? mentally. >> mentally the worst was when -- when i very first heard. i just didn't know what to expect. i didn't know whether the information -- how bad the information i was getting was. i mean, ...

Themselves together. do what it is that needs to be done. sometimes your thrown for a loop for a little while and then you start to reclaim. i think it's that getting back on the right path. that's the hard part. you know, you can't let yourself go down the chasm. you have to really get yourself back on the right path. >> larry: was the worst when they first told you? mentally. >> mentally the worst was when -- when i very first heard. i just didn't know what to expect. i didn't know whether the information -- how bad the information i was getting was. i mean, how bad is it not how bad the inf...

Sometimes your thrown for a loop for a little while and then you start to reclaim. i think it's that getting back on the right path. that's the hard part. you know, you can't let yourself go down the chasm. you have to really get yourself back on the right path. >> larry: was the worst when they first told you? mentally. >> mentally the worst was when -- when i very first heard. i just didn't know what to expect. i didn't know whether the information -- how bad the information i was getting was. i mean, how bad is it not how bad the information is but how had bad the cancer is. i had a great o...

But, you know, they become friends of yours. when you go to visit them, it doesn't seem -- when you go to have scans, when you go to find out if the disease is progressing, those are the times when it's really hard not to let it get into your head. >> larry: is resilience something you learn you have when misfortune occurs? >> i think that's probably true of a lot of people, you know, who -- >> larry: how do we know how we'll handle something until we have to handle it? >> you don't. you know? i think most people -- i don't think i'm special in any way. i think most people do pull themselves t...