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Obama care and making sure that each of the states get a waiver. going through tax reform so that we can get rid of these loop holes and get our country more competitive. you make $200,000 or less as your adjusted gross income, we want to make sure -- >> with all due respect, congressman -- >> there are a lot of specifics in those types of details. >> but those details were not talked about mitt romney. a question was raced, i don't think -- >> absolutely, they've been talking about these for months, absolutely. >> ann romney did a great job of talking about why she thinks he's a good person, ...

Bring down the rates and plug the loop holes and president obama would never agree to anything that brought down marginal tax rate. >> i will say this and there is enough blame to go around. both pears were skittish from the commission and divorcing themselves from it and by and large, the feel thag the work would be in a nice leather binder gathering dust in the end. >> it was all about midterm election. people upset with both parties. the incumbents were in trouble and should still be in trouble. the president controls everything. he had the world at his finger tips f. he embraced it it woul...

Of 800 people that have flowed through this set since that happened, i think i do commend him for that. >> yeah. >> little outnumbered right now. >> you can't be calling people names. >> i don't know what that means. >> so mark halperin. >> i'm just saying. >> can i have cheese? >> pick up with you. we were talking about last segment. why is it paul ryan and governor romney won't specify on the -- in their sort of macro plans what kind of deductions they would like to eliminate or scale back? shouldn't the american people have that as part of their ability to evaluate their plans? >> you can s...

This town over the last 30 years. and if you study the effects of that '86 tax reform which lowered rates and closed loopholes, it actually increased the share that the rich were paying. so this is not some fantasy. >> but it's supposed to raise revenue. >> right because if you depending on how you fool around with the rate and how many deductions and loop holes you actually close you can fiddle with the numbers. and this whole idea of the obama campaign and the democrats have been pushing that romney, because he hasn't said what deductions and loopholes specifically he's going to close, which...

Out. let's slow down. let's sell the house and get a smaller home. let's take some measures, some austerity measures to slow down how much money you are spending. >> kelly: you're saying the government should be doing the same thing? >> the government needs to do that. >> kelly: before i let you go. a couple weeks ago we discussed the boles-simpson plan that proposed a plan that could reduce the deficit and reduce spending. boles states in an editorial, no matter who wins the election next president in congress must lower tax rates for everyone in return for sweeping reduction in tax loopholes...