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This defeat for cantor indicate that there is a, i guess, a newer kind of movement by the tea party? what happened? >> well, the message to the tea spaert talking about for the last five years, one of personal and economic freedom. a debt free future. that's the message of dave bratt and won on and he won because the grass roots tea party activists in the district got out and talked about the issues with fellow voters. >> so lenny, we heard from senator graham earlier today who won his race in south carolina, who said, you know what? he had good ground game and he didn't say it directly but is...

How do we begin to do that more and more. she's perfectly positioned to do that. if she gets trapped responding to mitt romney, gets trapped in responding to a tea party, even to an elizabeth warren, she will find herself in a bigger mess. mainstream republicans who care about immigration, care about budget reform, have to be able to talk about things in ways, no disrespect to the things ken may be doing, have to talk about it in a way that's bigger than the moment. eric cantor lost touch with his district. >> ken cuccinelli, tea party activist, which is a broad way of saying against a lot of ...

Primary and asked people who voted for david brat the guy who beat cantor asked them what their main reason for doing so was. only 22% of them said immigration. it's only about one in five voters who voted against cantor saying that immigration was what motivated them. the rest, the other four out of five anti-cantor voters pointed to other reasons like cantor was, quote, too focused on national politics instead of local needs and that he'd, quote, lost touch with voters. and on the day -- on the same day of that election in a poll conducted by pp a clear majority of voters in cantor's distric...

At one point you mentioned the grass roots effect. while i don't think this is huge signal of things to come. eric cantor counted the hand went to work for them. and they came back and showed them who is bottom. >> grass roots in virginia are unique from the rest of the country. so close to washington, d.c. they are around so many different political consultants and they are very sophisticated. they understand what's going on i'm not surprised by. this the grass roots in virginia are organized. coalesce around one candidate. they worked hard care care about around this country. eric cantor los...

At one point you mentioned the grass roots effect. while i don't think this is huge signal of things to come. eric cantor counted the hand went to work for them. and they came back and showed them who is bottom. >> grass roots in virginia are unique from the rest of the country. so close to washington, d.c. they are around so many different political consultants and they are very sophisticated. they understand what's going on i'm not surprised by. this the grass roots in virginia are organized. coalesce around one candidate. they worked hard care care about around this country. eric cantor los...