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Outside. >> okay. this is what i call the old man workout. this is how we do it. one. i haven't lost touch with humanity. i refuse to lose touch with humanity. when you lose that, that's it. when you let this place strip you, that's it. >> trotter recently filed a request to be transferred ferd from confinement back to general population where he'll have considerably more freedom. >> five, six, seven, eight. >> because he was at the center of a 1985 riot, one of the most violent incidents in the history of the indiana state prison system, the request must be approved by multiple levels of admi...

Years and 16 of the last 28 years in confinement, christopher trotter values every moment outside. >> okay. this is what i call the old man workout. this is how we do it. one -- >> i haven't lost touch with humanity. i refuse to lose touch with humanity. when you lose that, that's it. that's it. when you let this place strip you, that's it. >> one -- >> trotter recently filed a request to be transferred from confinement back to general population where he would have more freedom. >> five, six, seven -- >> because he was at the center of a 1985 riot one of the most violent incidents in the hist...

Christopher trotter values every moment outside. >> okay. this is what i call the old man workout. this is how we do it. one -- i haven't lost touch with humanity. i refuse to lose touch with humanity. when you lose that, that's it. that's it. when you let this place strip you, that's it. >> one -- >> trotter recently filed a request to be transferred from confinement back to general population where he would have considerably more freedom. >> five, six, seven -- >> because he was at the center of a 1985 riot one of the most violent incidents in the history of the indiana state prison system, ...

>> having spent the last nine years and 16 of the last 28 years in confinement, christopher trotter values every moment outside. >> okay. this is what i call the old man workout. this is how we do it. one -- >> i haven't lost touch with humanity. i refuse to lose touch with humanity. when you lose that, that's it. that's it. when you let this place strip you, that's it. >> one -- >> trotter recently filed a request to be transferred from confinement back to general population where he would have more freedom. >> five, six, seven -- >> because he was at the center of a 198 r5 riot one of the mo...

Union, and you know, william faulkner, the great southern novelist said that the past isn't dead, it is not even past. >> this is 2011 though, and not 1861, so i'm curious if you find a difference of the attitude towards the civil war. has it changed over the years? >> yeah. i think that if anything, today, we have sort of lost touch. i think that the poll numbers show that, that we have lost touch with just how much this war was about slavery and people in 1861 wouldn't have disputed that fact. in fact, the newspaper headlines at the time called it the great slavery war. and, yet to,day, as y...