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>> having been embedded on this beat and looked at the president's business ties for a long time and thinking about this, what is your takeaway from where we are right now and what has been revealed by the indictments thus far? >> so the way i see it is -- the information seems to obviously strongly show or strongly suggest that certainly by 2014, the kremlin, putin had a very strong and organized effort to sow discord in u.s. political process as well as political processes all over the world. i think for him, my hunch is it was a lucky break that the man who became the republican candidate h...

Processes all over the world. i think for him, my hunch is it was a lucky break that the man who became the republican candidate happened to have a so many deep, deep, deep ties with cronies of putin. now to be fair to putin, i don't know if that's the right phrase, but trump's ties were generally with lower tier russian oligarchs, former soviet union oligarchs. but people fully under putin's thumb. and so it was this lucky break. and we know from the don jr. meeting, from papadopoulos, from others that putin took advantage of this by reaching out to trump again and again. we don't yet have th...

Bigger campaigns which understand these debates take up a lot of time to prepare for, travel to, et cetera. but the maller campaigns, the lower tier candidates will likely want to see more debates to try to get themselves out on the national stage. it sounds as though at this weekend meeting, according to our reporting, that you will see these campaigns come together, some of them, to try to come to a consensus what they want to talk with the rnc about. the rnc as you referred to trying to assuage concerns with its statement today. as we talk about the debate, the interesting thing is it's yet...

Is clintonian or too connected. if you really want to believe in conspiracy theories, bill clinton is egging him on to get into the race because it helps hillary clinton to royal the republican party's race. >> do you think that fiorina work her way into the top ten tonight, or the top 11 by her performance? >> no. it will be very tough. this 5:00 debate. it is big right now. but in an hour, we're going to have two hours prime time trump in the top tier. they're going to overwhelm this lower tier. i hear some of the contenders in the first debate. they're going out to dinner together. rick per...

>> get down! on the ground! get on the ground now! >> okay, they're opening, lower tier. once they're strip searched they're going into the rec yard. straight down the middle. straight down the middle. >> though the goal of the raids is to neutralize threats, some inmates are less threatening than others. >> we go through this about once a month. and usually they're looking for things we're not supposed to have. >> 68-year-old patrick stanwick has been at the 4th avenue jail for the past eight months and is one of maricopa's oldest inmates. >> i was born five days before pearl harbor. that mak...