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Courageous throughout this. but i've been shocked by the number of people who aren't willing to stand up and say, hey, you are not speaking for me. >> charley, that's been the point of your whole book. it's like danny was teeing you up here. but explain. >> part of it is you do have the people who made the bargain they are going to look the other way because they are going to get tax cuts. then of course you have the orange kool-aid drinkers doing all that. p th and this is going to leave a stain on conservative for a generation. but let's go back to this comparison with katrina whether or not...

Launch his campaign. this was going to be a week when michele bachmann declared whether she would run or not. p th is a day when rick perry is reigniting his presidential hope. all we will hear about for now is sarah palin. kind of legitimate. she has 15% in the poll. in iowa she is important. the race changes db -- >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> this is not legitimate. >> i said kind of legitimate. >> this is what we as media people need because it sells tickets. it puts people in the seats to watch us because there are no interesting or entertaining gop candidates. this is not news. she...

Close to the conversation we are having or are we in a dream land at this table as they sit in their dream land nowhere near the conversation we are having. >> like i said 3.2% on the treasury bond. most of the markets think it is all just bluster. look there have been like 70-something times since 1962 we have been through this discussion, right? and in some cases like ronald reagan, wlofr is in charge will say that armageddon will befall you if you don't vote for increase in the debt ceiling. this is what every side says, republican and democrat, all 70 plus times, whatever it has been. >> i...