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Children. if god forbid a million times that was within of your children, would you actually talk to me as a dad and say -- >> i will, and i'm a dad and i'm for some issues on gun but i've been in the military 34 years, i'm a brigadier general of the army national guard and i can tell you an ar-15 is nothing like an m-16 or an m-4 because what matters is not cosmetic features and what it looks like on the outside, it's the guts and what it does on the inside. and an m-4 and an m-16 have automatic fire. an ah-15 say semiautomatic weapon. it's not a military weapon it's meant to look like it. >>...

Lethal than an ar-15, far more lethal because of the rate of fire. they use similar calibers, but an m-16 that we the rate of fir >> but you know, congressman, people watching this will say you're having a semantic argument about the cosmetics of a gun and it was enough to kill 17 high school kids. it was enough to wipe out a classroom full of first graders. >> it was and that's why we need action and we need to make something happen immediately and we need to talk about safety -- >> you need to get rid of the assault weapons, you know what you need to do. >> okay, okay, let's be respectful an...

Looks like on the outside, what wl it's a charging handle, whether it has a flash suppresser, it's about what the weapon can do. and frankly i agree we need to do some things on guns. i'm not here saying we shouldn't deal with guns. i'm saying that frankly we need to get something done and get something done immediately that can make a difference. but we need a wholistic approach. if we don't go a wholistic approach, it's not going to have an impact. >> i completely agree with you on a wholistic approach. we've been talking about it since newtown and all the things that you talked about, i agr...

Call it socially responsible act on their part. there is no need for high-capacity rapidfire guns that can essentially become a kind of machine-gun. i fired the ar 15. i have a life membership in the nra and there are a lot of sensible people who believe this gun has no place in our society. it was built on the battlefield, weapon inspiration. the m-16. it has no practical use. if you want to - steve scalise was shot with an ar 15 semi automatic rifle, the officers that took down the assailant, took him down with two pistols.

Know, personally delays of a month or so between asking for a gun license and actually getting it. there should be training involved. there should be some signs, some proof that you actually know what you're doing with a gun. i mean, it's always struck me that people who have been in the military, who have had military training are the ones who are most in favor of a tight control of the licensing of guns and who don't believe that things like the ar-15, the m-16 should be allowed in civilian circumstances. and i must say, having watched wars and been involved in covering wars, i can't agree m...