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Handle. they also see them as a symbol of their second amendment rights. its opponents question whether weapons so lethal should even be sold. we sent our gary tuchman to get a close-up look at the power of the ar-15, and here's what he discovered. >> reporter: this is what an ar-15 sounds like. [ sound of gunfire ] general mark hertling served in the u.s. army for 37 years, so he knows what the ar-15, which used to be a weapon of war, can do. and he has strong feelings about the semiautomatic, assault-style rifle, which is the precursor to a weapon currently used by the military, the m-4. >> ...

Of their second amendment rights. its opponents question whether weapons so lethal should be sold. we sent our gary tuchman to get a close-up look at the power of the ar-15, and this is what he discovered. >> reporter: this is what an ar-15 sounds like. general mark hertling served in the u.s. army for 37 years, so he knows what the ar-15, which used to be a weapon of war, can do. and he has strong feelings about the semiconductor assault-style rifle, which is the precursor to a weapon currently used by the military, the m-4. >> the truth of the matter is they look almost exactly the same. >> ...

Defense of others. willing to give my life. and if i have to give my political life to save others, that is nothing compared to that. >> so what are you doing right? are you writing legislation. >> so i'm working on one of the things that i've been working on even before this had gone on was working on a bill for behavioral detection for the people that have the most overlap for anybody buying a firearm. that is the salesperson. giving them access to behavaroral detection training and i penned this up saying that that weapon that i carried in combat very similar to an ar-15 and an m-4, by a 14...

>> look, when i was on the battlefield and i saw an opportunity to save a life, i didn't have a conversation about it. i acted. it's common sense, and that's what needs to happen here. >> so you're saying banning ar-15 weapons is a chance to save a life? >> i believe that. that's why i came out and said this. you know, i looked at the platform i carried. an m-4, very similar to an ar-15. i was carrying that weapon in the most dangerous country on earth for one reason. it was the best weapon they gave me to go out there to make sure i could leliminate our enemies. >> your colleagues asked the q...

Platform i carried. an m-4, very similar to an ar-15. i was carrying that weapon in the most dangerous country on earth for one reason. it was the best weapon they gave me to go out there to make sure i could eliminate our enemies. >> your colleagues asked the question, though, why take this out of responsible gun owner's hands? way take this from the well-trained adept gun users who obey the law and want to use an ar-15 for target practice? >> i love the well-trained responsible gun owner. i am one. i usually carry a .9 millimeter.