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We don't know. it's speculation guesses. the attorney is saying this circumstantial evidence, well circumstantial evidence is good evidence and has been used often to convict people. >> and again, is it circle because two guys -- there are two other accomplishes we know, seen on tape and they have records of those guys being there but because the court records are sealed, we don't know if they are telling the police he shot him. >> i interviewed bob recently and we talked about the culture of guns in the nfl. this is another example, if that's what it is, if it turns out he's convicted and use...

To convict people. >> and again, is it circle because two guys -- there are two other accomplishes we know, seen on tape and they have records of those guys being there but because the court records are sealed, we don't know if they are telling the police he shot him. >> i interviewed bob recently and we talked about the culture of guns in the nfl. this is another example, if that's what it is, if it turns out he's convicted and used a gun and so on. there is this culture, isn't it, of players having a gun, empowers themselves with a weapon? >> i think there is a culture of guns among young pe...

Because the two guys -- there were two other accomplices that were in the car. they have records of those guys being there. but because the court records are sealed their names aren't out. >> you know i interviewed bob costas recently and we talked about the culture of guns in the nfl. this is another example, if that's what it is, if it turns out he's convicted and used a gun. there is this gull chur, isn't there of having a gun, empowering themselves with a weapon. >> i think there's a culture of gun among young people. people forget that nfl players, a lot of them are 23 were 24, 25. the av...

They're not comparable. >> i'm not comparing them yet. i'm saying arnold schwarzenegger has been caught in a sex scandal. he's a high-profile guy. there are rumors of other stories. they may or may not be true. should he come on a show like this, lay everything on the table and say, you know what, this is the truth. >> eventually. >> get everything out of the way. >> but the difference is tiger woods had this all-american boy image, right? and he had this super-clean image. and so he was the poster boy for that. arnold schwarzenegger has this tough guy, macho image, and all of these rumors of ...

>> i'm not comparing them yet. i'm saying arnold schwarzenegger has been caught in a sex scandal. he's a high-profile guy. there are rumors of other stories. they may or may not be true. should he come on a show like this, lay everything on the table and say, you know what, this is the truth. >> eventually. >> get everything out of the way. >> but the difference is tiger woods had this all-american boy image, right? and he had this super-clean image. and so he was the poster boy for that. arnold schwarzenegger has this tough guy, macho image, and all of these rumors of -- >> not as damaging. >...