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Taking place and mr. lewandowski's actions are one of those instances. the president wanted to limit investigation into himself for his benefit to keep things from coming out to the public, and so it would be very important for lewandowski to answer those questions. did it happen? did the president direct you to do it? because there's ample evidence that the president did. so i'm really wondering whether cory lewandowski is that in love with the president or the prospect of running for the senate that he will come before congress and lie. and so i don't put it past him or anybody else in this ...

Martha: wow. i mean, this one is a major development k. jonah goldberg is editor at large for the national review online and a fox news contributor. jonah, i mean, this looks like they don't want to deal with it. >> yeah. it's pretty astounding when you think about it. and for -- we tonight know for a fact -- we don't know for a fact they're actually going to do this, this is what some insurance company executives have heard and this is what the administration is considering. no one's announced it yesterday. it's funny, yesterday john boehner gives up on immigration reform, and he says a big r...

Lot of mutual respect for each other in our discussions. very diplomatic on the president's part as well at this point. >> this is definitely a diplomatic seesaw, to say the least, and i think the president's relationship with putin at best is lukewarm. look, this president's committed to diplomacy and working and talking to people to get stuff done, and vladimir putin will do everything possible to stop the brokering of world peace including like i said earlier what happens this his own country. and i want to go back to a point that david made about human rights atrocities happening in russia...

Right before an election. but when it comes to all these scandals. when it comes to this stuff i think obamacare as well. he does this thing where he down play them in my view. this is the first ambassador murdered in what, more than 30 years. he said we had a bunch of hearings. moving on. it's a discussion, we had a lot of investigations because four americans died and that's why we want to get to the bottom of it. >> i looked at it again today. the o'reilly interview with the president. what popped out at me is the following. the president blames the fox news channel for the benghazi problem...

In and what russia does, but first nbc's looking at the problems with journalists, the problems that are going on over there, security issues with the threats from radical muslims. yeah, putin, russia, syria, it's all about the only warm water base since the cold war, and they're backers of iran, they trade with iran which is the world's largest sponsor of state terrorism. so before you even get to human rights, you've got a broader picture of one of the world's largest if not the largest arms dealer, because they sell to everyone. they're in the business of, basically, pushing russia's intere...