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It from what we've heard so far. >> and we're waiting to hear if the meeting for thursday between u.s. secretary of state antony blinken and the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov, if that is still on. it seems quite possible that blinken will announce at this press conference that we're waiting for that he is not going to participate. do you think putin cares? >> you know, i think we got an answer to this, certainly, if not earlier in the weekend, then today. emanuel macron said in this last-minute diplomacy to try to find a way out of getting putin to stop before he started taking these...

Down in paris. what do you think he was angling for? >> he was upset when he saw these reports of president macron's comments with regard to building a european military and, in particular, suggesting that a military in europe was required to protect it from the united states. the president has been pushing for europe, generally and in particular the framework of nato to increase spending for its own defense for some time. its one of his signature issues in terms of foreign policy when he's been in europe. so to see that, it sounds like he either misinterpreted it or president macron didn't me...

The one thing that's interesting to note is after the united states declared jerusalem as the capital of israel, we didn't see any other countries follow suit, at least not yet. we've heard rumors, but none of them have done it. we also have been watching closely what president mahmood abbas has been doing. he has been traveling around arab countries with close relations with the united states to try to garner support. yesterday he was in jordan. today he is going to be speaking with presidency cease sisi of egypt. we'll be watching them closely to see how far they'll go with their condemnatio...

Out of that meeting on the issue, talking about issue of climate change that came up, saying he was the one that could change, that there could be a change of opinion. president macron didn't have to say we might change this or that to fit into president trump. it went the other way. president trump left that an open possibility. was it because of something that got sent behind closed doors? we don't know. it's the way macron was hoping to reframe it. >> that's an interesting point that you made there. nic robertson, thank you very much. so, who inside the white house knew about the meeting ...