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This is new, this struggle about how we deal with these types of allegations of wrongful conduct in a political context. it's not going to go to trial. the rules of trial don't apply. and then what do we see with cohen and all these other people going to mueller? what's the worst-case scenario? what's the best one? a perfect mind for both matters. mucasey joins us to explore. next. it's weathered countless storms. battered, but never broken, it stands for the resilience within us all. ♪

I have to go, we'll talk about this more next week when we see how it turns out. you're always welcome on the show, be well. michael cohen reportedly has been spilling the beans to mueller and company. last week the president's former campaign chair agreed to cooperate, the list is growing. does it matter? and if so? how? we've laid it out for you on the magic wall next. ♪ it is such a good time to kiss ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to dance ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to [ laughing ] ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo [ goose honking ] ♪ [ laughing ] a bad day on the road...

Independents. independents represent disaffected democrats and disaffected republicans. that's what we need to understand. there is a great middle. >> true. there certainly is a great need, and people are looking and we'll see what they find. governor kasich, thank you for being part of the conversation. >> thanks for the chat. thanks for letting me talk, chris. good luck. god bless you. keep it going. >> thank you, sir. ivanka trump in the news. why? splitting with her dad on tearing families apart at the border. she calls it a low point. but does she have more of a responsibility? i'm slow...

President prosecuting himself, number one. number two, he's got the power to dismiss the case. so the case is a futility at the start. so that's why you can't indict a sitting president. it doesn't have anything to do with being above the law. if he's impeached, he can certainly be indicted. >> it's about process. your mind makes things better for us. >> thank you very much. >> it's just the truth. former attorney general, appreciate you being here. we saw something different from the government on russian interference and something painfully the same. we're going to lay it out for you on the ...

And on and on. and i think she's acquitting that to people -- this administration treating people who cross the border as other. and that that is a -- that is a line that runs through the american fabric that we need to talk about. %-pp of the hour. we know one thing for sure about the people you come from. it was a land of good looking people. >> and they love you. i don't know why, but they do. don was just making a point that's going to play into our closing argument. us versus them. what does it mean to be pro-life? the pope just made a major shift in catholic teaching. and it's getting ...