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His immediate presence. so here's what you have to know. that you haven't yet heard from the state. there are no magic words that are required. the court will tell you, there's nothing special you have to say to be effectuating a citizens arrest. there's nothing special you can't say while effectuating a citizens arrest. if it happens within your knowledge or immediate presence, then you can effectuate a citizens arrest and criminal trespass, the court will tell you, going on someone's property

0 taking that left-hand turn around the front of the car, if that began the evidence, you would look at mcmichaels say, he came at me, he saw i had a gun, i'm allowed to protect myself. you must take it in context, and i thought she did a very good job of saying, look, you can't be the aggressor, and start all of this, and put everything in play and at the last minute, time-out, now i get to argue self-defense. i'm looking forward to what she's going to say on rebuttal, it needs to be brought home again. >> on the flip side, what one of the defense attorneys who we heard from said there's been...

He did not want to be lobbied. he wanted to speak his truth without giving any editing or scraping by any of us, and i think it made it much more authentic and powerful that we. but i would say that i was -- as a wind up god. >> so david, it's a big moment in the campaign. you know that he is going to make the announcement, it's going to have been your about two weeks out. you need everything to go perfectly at this point in the campaign. this is someone who is known john mccain for 25 years. he said something that i don't think we will hear again for a very long time before he makes his endor...

This is someone -- this is a guys that known john mccain for 25 years. he says something that i don't think we will hear again for a very long time before he makes this endorsement. he says both of them are distinguished americans who are patriotic, who are dedicated to the welfare of our country. he is saying that before he makes a public endorsement of one. what was it like for you when you heard those magic words from colin powell and what did it then mean to your campaign calculations? >> well, lawrence, it was a good sunday morning. so, yeah. just to underscore valerie said we didn't know...

She was on senate staff in 1988. when i was on the senator's reelection campaign staff. senate stuff had nothing to do with me or the campaign. and they were all operating at a level farm of my head. but kathy local, left the morning senate stuff that you're, and you're going to hear in a moment, the magic words that senator morning him said to her. that helped ease her out of the senate staff. and it's quite a story. maybe if he had and said that, i wouldn't know kathy hochul much more than i already do. we would've ended up working together. but such is life. >> this is a tv show that i'm ex...