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Politico.com reporting that the other recognizable guy at freedomworks besides dick armey, a guy named matt kibbie had allegedly used freedomworks staff and resources to wray his book, even though all the profits from the book were just going to him, going to matt kibbie. anybody donating to freedomworks, anybody donating to freedomworks was effectively paying for the staff time and the resources to produce a project that just personally profited one of the people who work there's. a scam. it's like the newt gingrich direct mail scam, right, where newt gingrich would give businesses fake award...

Thinking it's for the campaign and it really just gets spent on something that you're going to profit from? should that be okay? because they're sort of randian economic anarchists, and if you can scam people out of their money, you deserve their money than they do? >> it is consistent with randian principles, i think. take a look back at ralph reed and pat robertson. it was all about generating this list, figuring out ways to sell them to others, using them to raise money on "the 700 club," trying to sell products, some of seemingly dubious value, and it's -- so i guess at least they're not h...

Morris's pals at newsmax are essentially operating systems designed to feet the contact information for gullible and overexcited conservatives to people who can part them with their money. right? and if you are a person who has long been struck by and fascinated by how similar the conservative be afraid direct mail that asks for money looks to the kind of direct mail that tries to scam your grandmother out of her save remember fred thompson and the reverse mortgage thing? yeah. it is amazing to see. if you have been watching this over time is one of the amazing things about it is how persisten...

Other recognizable guy at freedomworks besides dick armey, a guy named matt kibbe had allegedly used freedomworks' staff and resources to write his book, even though all the profits from the book were just going to him, going to matt kibbe. anybody donating to freedomworks, anybody donating to freedomworks was effectively paying for the staff time and the resources to produce a project that just personally profited one of the people who work there's. a scam. it's like the newt gingrich direct mail scam, right, where newt gingrich would give businesses fake awards, where what you won was the op...

Addresses, having people's base contact information was sort of enough to give you the appearance of being a movement. you'd have people send in a million different postcards or send in a million different faxes, and it would look like you were a lot of people before that stuff could be very regimentally automated. now that stuff really doesn't fly anymore and you need to contact people in a much more substantive way in order or the those things not to look fake, i feel that this machinery that the republicans built up worked for them to look like a movement for a long time, and now it's just ...