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Be -- >> when you talk to democrats about the perspective republican candidates, they talk about jeb bush as a formidable opponent. >> i talked to democrats who fear him more than christie. >> he has a lot of strengths and who can actually talk to hispanic leaders. that's a big, big problem for the party. considerably among republicans and the democrats. someone in like jeb bush is quite conservative. >> that's the main push. if he gets back into it, then it's therapy.

"dukes of hazard." >> former governor barb bour ran the state like boss hog. he didn't follow the law. governor barber didn't follow it. it was very clear he had to have this information. he department obtain it before he signed these pardons. now he's caused a public safety issue. these families are afraid out here. these victims have been through a terrible amount. >> martin savidge is in jackson, mississippi, this morning. martin's what's the constitutional issue here? is haley barbour giving any explanation? i know you tried to talk to him at the beginning of the week and you cou...