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Them. i don't think she'll do it. i think that jon huntsman is someone democrats ought to take very seriously. i think mark is entirely right about it. he actually fills the space that george w. bush filled in 2000. we all see bush now from a different perspective, but in 2000, he ran as the compassionate conservative, the reasonable conservative. i think huntsman is a conservative but he has a record that make people more a party that was capable last year of nominating christine o'donnell, who had to deny she was a witch, for the senate in delaware, may not be willing to nominate someone lik...

Serve a country, so i think that's a great message. he comes across as very authentic. in the end, what people and voters are looking for is somebody who's real, consistent and credible, and human. >> mark, real quick. in the final analysis, even though palin has a huge lead right now, do you think huntsman has a better chance than palin? >> i think huntsman has a much better chance. i think palin's sell-by date has already come and gone. i think people basically are not going to see her as presidential. i don't think she can -- if she wins iowa, if she enters iowa and wins it, i think she'll ...

Himself to the primary electora electorate. what was clever about what bush did was he said he was a conservative, but a compassionate conservative. it made him sound like a different kind of conservative. that's how he came across to the electric rat. when they use the term "mainstream conservative" they want to say he's conservative, but that's there to also position him as someone who can win. when they turn the obama stuff against him and say he was obama's ambassador to china, he probably will say, no, i was america's ambassador to china, and then he'll use that credential to critique the...

There anybody arguing, yet, less ate occupy them forever? >> no, i don't think so, and i think your first point is right, too, that the palestinian state is going to have to be established on the west bank in gaza if there's going to be a two-state solution, which most israelis and most palestinians accept. it's not going to be based on the moon. it's going to be in the west bank. so it shouldn't be controversial, but the '67 borders have a whole lot of connotations that have grown up over the years, and so there's kind of a demistification process going on here. i think the other thing to be ...

There, and that's what michael bennet has to both distance himself from and respond to in the fall campaign. >> hey, jonathan martin, it seems as if democrats are doing a touchdown dance about ken buck, and they are trying to turn him into sharron angle and rand paul's somehow hidden brother in the basement. >> right. >> is ken buck, you know, sharron angle in drag? >> chuck, it's funny you mentioned that. i'm actually doing a story right now about what i call the race to define ken buck. >> yeah. >> i started last night right after the results came in. both the gop and democrats are in a furi...