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A political document, the folks at the society and heritage foundation. they don't think they're mainstream conservatives. they think they're movement conservatives. those 25 folks are movement conservatives. they're people who have been waiting a long time to look at vast quantities of the law, very, very differently. and the president -- the first list was 12, i think. president was so thrilled that it reassured the evangelicals, got such great press in the conservative press about it, he said let's do it again. and that -- then they added a couple more people. but that's the list. and the l...

Document, the people who compiled it didn't think it was a political document, the folks at the society and heritage foundation. they don't think they're mainstream conservatives. they think they're movement conservatives. those 25 folks are movement conservatives. they're people who have been waiting a long time to look at vast quantities of the law, very, very differently. and the president -- the first list was 12, i think. president was so thrilled that it reassured the evangelicals, got such great press in the conservative press about it, he said let's do it again. and that -- then they a...

First one? >> philandering is not a principle. what i was saying is that obama claims himself that he derived his dreams, his principles, from his father. and the forbes magazine article listed what those principles were. it's not unreasonable to investigate that. look, i'm a mainstream conservative. i work in the reagan administration. i worked at the most reputable conservative think tankings from a.e.i. to the hoover institution. the very idea that you can define me by a tweet or two over a long career is preposterous. >> i'm not trying to define you. i am trying to figure what your princip...

Conservative. dana rohrbacher is this pro-julian assange libertarian. >> got you. >> ablnd so there's a mass of democrats running there, including harley rouda. now the biggest threat is the 39th district, this is ed royce's district. and you have two millionaires on the democratic side who really don't like each other very much, neither of whom would make perfect general election candidates. one is a lottery winner. megamillions jackpot winners has to be the least sympathetic. >> in this current environment, yeah. you've been doing a lot of work on this for axios. what is the big picture here...

>> i'm a progressive and there should be things. just roseanne was not the person for at ththat. let's have someone who is a mainstream conservative. we we should have all points of view represented in the media. >> there is some media bias and joy behar has some horrible things, keith olbermann has said some horrible things, kathy griffin, but they all paid a price, except for joy behar. this isn't a time to play what aboutism. it a time to tuck aboalk about comment that cannot be tolerated. >> i think there are people out there who think they can get away with what trump said from demonizing...