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Upon. but he talks about it, he has no interest in it, and he hasn't lifted a finger in terms of advancing it. >> quickly, ab, the republicans are threatening, some of them in the senate, like senator cruz we had on, holding up the debt ceiling deal, tied to repeal of obama care. >> you heard congressman cole, you heard today senator blunt, senator mccain, this is not going to be a majority movement. there are too many republicans over on the house side, even at the leadership level who say we're not going to do this, we're not going to default over something like this. it is what you talk abo...

And the occupy oakland people are essentially disavowing the people who are rioting. are you seeing difficult discussions about non-violence and about potential splits and differences in tactics? >> yes. well, yes and no. everyone i've spoken to is committed 100% to non-violence. this is the only way that this is going to work. in fact, we don't -- we don't need violence because we're not in the minority here. this is the majority. this is a majority movement. if this country is of, by, and for the people, if it's to run by the will of the majority, there's no need for violence because the maj...

People who are rioting. are you seeing difficult discussions about non-violence and about potential splits and differences in tactics? >> yes. well, yes and no. everyone i've spoken to is committed 100% to non-violence. this is the only way that this is going to work. in fact, we don't -- we don't need violence because we're not in the minority here. this is the majority. this is a majority movement. if this country is of, by, and for the people, if it's to run by the will of the majority, there's no need for violence because the majority have already said we're sick and tired of this and we e...