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Romney, i'm talking about beating paul and gingrich, why not? >> well, again, new hampshire marches to the beat of its own drummer to begin with. the second thing is, they're distinctly different electorates, in hawaii six out of every ten voters are evangelicals, protestants, strong social conservatives. in new hampshire one of the most secular less than a quarter evangelical and born again. and marches to the tune of a different drummer. south carolina, however, pays attention to what happens in new hampshire. i can tell you this painfully. in 2000 we were way up, bush was way up in new hamp...

Romney, i'm talking about beating paul and gingrich, why not? >> well, again, new hampshire marches to the beat of its own drummer to begin with. the second thing is, they're distinctly different electorates, in hawaii six out of every ten voters are evangelicals, protestants, strong social conservatives. in new hampshire one of the most secular less than a quarter evangelical and born again. and marches to the tune of a different drummer. south carolina, however, pays attention to what happens in new hampshire. i can tell you this painfully. in 2000 we were way up, bush was way up in new hamp...

In life, what do you make of this whole thing? and now being politically involved? >> i also think it's important to not just limit it to the bachmanns. the bachmanns are clearly one step beyond and that marcus bachmann actually engaged in reparative therapy. but as far as i know, herman cain believes sexual orientation can be changed. rick perry championed a constitutional amendment that banned not only gay marriage but civil unions. i think that although this is a minority position in the country at large, it's a majority position among the republican base. and so, this kind of, you know -- ...

Engaged in this unusual mission in life, what do you make of this whole thing? and now being politically involved? >> i also think it's important to not just limit it to the bachmanns. the bachmanns are clearly one step beyond and that marcus bachmann actually engaged in repetitive therapy. but as far as i know, herman cain believes sexual orientation can be changed. rick perry championed a constitutional amendment that banned not only gay marriage but civil unions. i think that although this is a minority position in the country at large, it's a majority position among the republican base. an...

Engaged in this unusual mission in life, what do you make of this whole thing? and now being politically involved? >> i also think it's important to not just limit it to the bachmanns. the bachmanns are clearly one step beyond and that marcus bachmann actually engaged in reparative therapy. but as far as i know, herman cain believes sexual orientation can be changed. rick perry championed a constitutional amendment that banned not only gay marriage but civil unions. i think that although this is a minority position in the country at large, it's a majority position among the republican base. an...